Flow State Business

Astrology for Business - Transforming scarcity into prosperity with Oath Oracle Ayesha Durrani

December 03, 2022 Ruby Lee Episode 283
Flow State Business
Astrology for Business - Transforming scarcity into prosperity with Oath Oracle Ayesha Durrani
Show Notes Transcript

I have such an incredible treat for you today as I share an extra long, juicy conversation with my dream Inner Circle client and one of the best astrologers out there, Ayesha Durrani. This episode is dense with inspiration and information about all things astrology, business, wealth, healing deep wounds, and life transformation. I encourage you to pause where you need to, take notes, and really soak up all the goodness from Ayesha’s amazing story. 


Ayesha Durrani is a visionary astrologer, wealth energetics coach and business oracle on a mission to inspire, activate and empower entrepreneurs to create wild prosperity on their path of unique purpose. Having studied astrology for over 20 years and truly embodying her understanding of the mystic realm, Ayesha’s work serves leaders, healers, mystics, artists & entrepreneurs to stand tall in their purpose and create prosperity with their soul gifts.  


In this episode, Ayesha shares her story of growing up in poverty and how astrology helped her to transform her darkest shadows into purpose, power and prosperity. Allowing the wisdom of the stars to guide her and consistent practice of rituals, shadow work and manifestation, Ayesha’s life transformed from poverty and crippling self doubt into a thriving multiple six-figure soul-purpose business in under two years. 


We talk deeper about this journey, the deep wounds Ayesha faced, the healing she experienced, and we dive further into how Ayesha uses her astrology chart to guide her, cut through the noise and follow her intuition. We dive deeper into so many different aspects of our charts including the North Node, and the wounded healer archetype, Chiron. 


There is so much here for you today, I know you’re going to love Ayesha, her powerful story and her practical teaching on using astrology for entrepreneurship, money and business building. 


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Ruby: Okay, this is a big one. Today we have an extra, extra long, juicy, delicious episode. I'm sitting down with my inner circle client, and honestly, one of the best astrologers and business purpose life path interpreters out there in the world as we. Speak her name, Isha, also known as Oath, Oracle. You will get to know this incredible light so well both inside of this episode and also wherever it is that you choose to follow.

Isha, it's a long one. So how I would suggest you digest all of this incredible information is to take your time with it. Pause. Take notes, receive the message. Listen to Ayesha incredible story. You might wanna do this one in chunks over a couple of days, or sit down and just soak it all in. It's very special.

There is so much in there, which gave me a ton of permission and it's quite unique as well, because Ayesha was also reading my chart. And I'm so grateful for that because it is something that I never really take lightly. And I think in Ayesha's own word she was saying when she reads a chart, it's kind of like look at my soul and.

whenever you've kind of worked with readers. I'm not sure if you have before. It really does feel like a sense of vulnerability. Like you're just opening yourself up like that for the first time and someone is literally reading your soul map. So I definitely, , feel a lot of reverence for this episode, hopefully, as you can tell.

And without further ado, let's jump into the conversation and enjoy.

Hello everybody. I am thrilled, absolutely thrilled to the Bone to have Ayesha here with us today. The Oracle herself is sitting down and having a chat, and you are in for such a very special treat. Thank you so much for being on the Flow State Podcast today.

Ayesha: Thank you so much for having me, Ruby. This is a beautiful full circle moment for you as you know, I first came across your work through binging really on your podcast episodes really just a few months ago, and since then we've been on such a journey with me being in your mastermind and then being invited onto your podcast and just like all, all of the flow that gets to happen in this wild world of online business and like people doing their so purpose work, it's the best and I'm so grateful to be here. 

Ruby: I have to pinch myself sometimes that I get to work with just souls like you, where you know, honestly, honestly, I probably would've had. You on my dream board as dream clients to work with, and you've manifested into my life in such a flowy way. And oh my gosh, like I am so, so blessed to be able to work with you.

So thank you so much and I've been looking forward to this interview forever. And um, it's finally here. So I wanna share with everybody a little bit about your mission because, gosh, like it is so special to hear it in this way, especially from someone who is so connected with the divine and so connected with a language which we're gonna be talking a lot about, but also how it manifests in business.

So Ayesha's mission is to inspire and to activate and empower entrepreneurs to create wild prosperity on their path of unique purpose, and that to me just feels so incredible, like goosebumps from the top of my head to the tip of my toes. What led you to starting a business that was so blended in with spirituality, energetics and all things money and wealth.

Ayesha: Oh, such a juicy question. And it's funny because those very things that people might see as my strengths or as, oh, it's, you know, this is what she teaches on, this is what she, she might be strong in, were my exact weaknesses for most of my life.

So I studied astrology since age 14, so I'm now 33, turning 34 in February. So coming on 20 years of studying astrology, and that was one of the only constants in my life. So I experienced a lot of chaos, uh, being uprooted. I experienced poverty, , having, you know, our lights and power cut off, going to the food bank for food with my mom at times when my mom was separated from my dad.

So, childhood was a space where I experienced the real scarcity, so the, the imprints of scarcity as well as the real actual scarcity. And that had a really big impact on me with my self-esteem, with,, feeling like I belonged in groups of other people, like at school and things like that. And it was really this super tender sore point for me.

And then at age 15, funny, a year after I discovered astrology, I dropped out of school and I left my home. And I have been financially supporting myself since then. And along the way, some of my, my most tender spots were work. Feeling [00:05:00] purposeless, feeling like I didn't know what I was doing, and wealth and money, and feeling like I didn't have the same privileges as other people, which was true.

And feeling like I was constantly looking around at people who had more than me, and they were more than me. And even, uh, experiencing jealousy when I would, even, even some of my boyfriends, I, I was attracted to the sciency type. I'm a Venus and Aquarius person, so I was always attracted to these heady, genius scientist, engineer types.

And I experienced jealousy of my own partners because they were so happy with what they were doing. And now, upon looking back on those things, that seemed to be some of the most painful parts of existence for me because it, it felt like, for me, when it came to career all throughout my twenties, it felt like I missed the boat because I chose to drop out of high school.

And what everyone says, what the predominant narrative is, is you need a degree to get a good job. And I just didn't see myself, I didn't want to go back. I didn't see myself going back. So I thought, okay, , if the story is that, We need a degree to get a good job. I guess I will never have a good job then.

And I kind of just accepted that I did all kinds of random work. Ruby, you wouldn't, you wouldn't believe some of the jobs that I've had in, in these years and when it came time for my business to birth, which that's a whole story in itself, but, you know, I'm a projector in human design. Something I'm also very passionate about.

And a friend of mine who had been the recipient of my free astrology work as I was just exploring other people's charts and being like, oh, this is where Mercury's retrograding for you. And just overflowing to my friends, cuz it's fun to work with my friends' charts, right? It's like, oh, they're dating someone. Let's check out their chart. So fun.

And so I received this, uh, divine invitation from a really good friend of mine, shout out Iris, who's a manifesting generator. And, and she said, Hey, can I pay you to do a reading for my boyfriend, for my new boyfriend? I want him to have a proper reading.

And so when that happened, it was, , 2018 I believe, and had a few years of a new income stream, which was doing astrology readings. Cause as soon as I did, one more would always come. So my word of mouth game was pretty strong. I had no website, I had no social media. And by the time. It was the end of, uh, fall of 2019.

I was looking ahead at the astrology of 2020 and it was all cray cray. The astrology of 2020 was wild and I didn't predict a pandemic or anything, but I could see that there was gonna be a lot of instability and disruption. I could see how it was impacting my personal charts where in my chart it was saying, you're not gonna have job security, because it was in literally the house of my career that certain major things were happening in 2020.

So I thought, okay, well that would be a good year to make my astrology website and maybe make an Instagram because it will increase that one income stream and maybe that will help keep me safe in case I lose one of my other jobs somehow for some reason. 

And of course, we all know what happened in 2020 and what ended up happening for me is that I never went back to any of my jobs and, um, even though some of them had still been available to me and I went all in with my business and with that journey that opened me up into the world of business and wealth in a way that I had never been a part of before. 

But my 20 years of studying astrology, there's no choice once you see and speak and understand that language, but to apply it to the things that you do. So I applied it into my business because that's just who I am.

And the results were pretty extraordinary, in terms of certain like revenue milestones and other milestones, you know, within six months I was at having 10 k months. My first 12 months of business was, six figures and not the first calendar year, cause I started in the end of March, but that first 12 month period was six figures into the multi six figures.

Were celebrating over half a million, , so far in 2022. So I quickly kind of got thrown in the deep end when it came to business and realized, oh, I like this. And it's really aligned with my chart as well. So, the cool thing with our charts is that, We keep deepening the layers even though we're looking at the same image because it's expressing these potentials.

And I hadn't given the parts of my chart that were very strategic, very wealth oriented, very business oriented. I given them an opportunity for them to show me their potential in my life. So that's the cool thing about just the continual expression of the potentials in our charts. And, uh, yeah, I'm really passionate about it.

Cause I know what it feels like to be poor. I know what it feels like to have my mom, you know, on welfare and going to the food bank and eating , what we are given for free at the food bank. I know what it feels like to see other people succeed. I know what it feels like to feel like we're too late.

I know what it feels like to feel like everyone has this cool job, but I don't. so that's why I'm so passionate about this because I truly know that it is available to us in this new business paradigm that you and I know.

Ruby: I can feel so many people listening in and going, wow, you know, I can do that. If you can do that, I can do that. And your first reading, paid reading was in 2018. 

It wasn't that long ago. . That is just wild to me. 

[00:10:00] Isn't that awesome that it kind of started as almost word of mouth, something that you were passionate about, that you loved doing, and then the universe just kept that momentum going and you followed that flow and you kept answering the call and you kept going down that pathway to the point now where you've made over a million dollars in total revenue.

And I just think that is something to celebrate in such a huge way. We get a lot of, um, listeners here who are aspiring readers, whether it be human design readers, astrologists, who I'm sure you've come across as well. The thinking is, I can't make a lot of money doing that. It's really hard to scale out the business that way, or, it almost feels so intangible and so impossible doing that because their readings are like $20 or $50 and they're not quite sure how to go from there.

But to have you as an expander in this space and looking at your offerings, it's absolutely amazing. My question is, how did you take your readings from, you know, individual readings into now becoming a global brand? Like what, was there a particular moment that you decided, I'm gonna expand, I'm gonna do more business coaching, I'm gonna do group work.

Where did that come from?

Where did stem from for you?

Ayesha: Once I broke through and my business was actually up and running and I'd already experienced, you know, a few years and, you know, especially the few months before where there were weeks where I was having five readings in a week, and I could really imagine like, wow, imagine if this was all that I did and I didn't have these five other side hustles and I wasn't burning myself out really badly with all these other jobs.

And so, you know, when you have been without that sense of purpose and without that sense of financial security and freedom as well and having that deep craving for it, and all of a sudden you get a taste for it. This is where we have to. Be participating in the process of co-creation with Spirit. So I love how you were saying, you know, just taking it and running with it, because that's the thing.

Yeah. There are gonna be these divine opportunities, these faded moments. There is gonna be times when the stars and the astrology align, but you still have to step up and make a choice and make a decision for yourself that this is gonna be, a really powerful thing and that you're gonna bet on yourself 100%.

And, and that's what I did because it was almost like, and by the way, I was 30. Or just turned 31 when my business started so that's a little bit later than we see now that business is getting more popular. We're seeing younger and younger people get involved, which I think is awesome.

I think it's so amazing. But I just want people to understand, you know, how much I felt like a late bloomer. So it was almost like deep within myself, all that disappointment, the projector, bitterness, the resentment, the feeling like it was too late. We can either become buried by that or we can let it become our fuel where once I do get my hands on something, you better believe I'm gonna take it all the way home.

And that's something that, um, that energy within me finally got a place to express itself. And you also see it in my chart. You also see certain placements for me where it's like this energy is dying to express. And when it didn't have that channel to express, guess how it did express dumpster, fire relationships, toxic relationships, drugs, partying.

Bad girl things. Unhealthy, toxic choices. So it was like, we all have fuel. We all have power, we all have energy, and it's all about, where we direct that energy. 

Ruby: Listening to you talking about that it's about that trust and that surrender. How do you trust, how do you personally know to trust that because it's not, it's so individualized. But for someone who's come through what you've come through, it's not as though you had a really big support system that was there to kind of say, Hey, you know, don't worry about it.

If you fall, we'll just be here to catch you. It really was an independence and a decision that you made on your own. How did you do that? 

Ayesha: Thank you. I love that recognition because that was one of my deepest wounds that I felt was that I didn't have a security net. 

So for me, it's interesting that you say that because in my chart I have my north node, the point of future destiny in the sign of Pisces, which is the sign of trust and surrender. And then my self node, which is the point of past life karma, is in Virgo, which was all about controlling and making sure everything's okay.

And that's why I was overworking and I was burnt out and I had, I was paralyzed by perfectionism. So through working with my own chart and the potentials of my chart for all, you know, It's been 19 years and still counting, I'm still working with my chart pretty much daily, uncovering the potentials. And then it just gets to the point where if I can read what it says, if I can read what this instruction manual of my highest potential says, the only thing missing is me just making that choice and moving forward.

And there also gets to be a point, anyone who's experienced a rock bottom there gets to be a point where there's nothing left to lose and you just go for it. And, uh, now I remember part of the question before that you would ask as well, [00:15:00] for the astrologers of the human design readers who are feeling like, or any kind of reader who's feeling like, oh, how can I scale my business in that way?

Something that's been really helpful for me is not to look at, and this is something that astrology and human design are so helpful for as well, because they help us cut through the noise of everything that's happening online. Everything we see, all the noise, all the sea of endless, infinite information, strategies and things that we could be doing, jobs we could do, things we could apply and really decide that what I wanted wasn't to fit into any other box, which by the way, I could never even do that anyway, even when I did want that when I was younger.

But what I really want and what I believe all people really want is to be on their path of destiny. So it's not about how likely is it to succeed and become a six to seven figure astrologer. Did I have proof that you could do that? Not really. There was like, you know, obviously there's people doing amazing things in astrology.

Chani Nicholas was someone I was aware of, totally different brand than me. But that was someone, okay, I can see one person out here and there's more. But at the time when I wasn't in Instagram online business world, I wasn't following a lot of astrologers on Instagram or any of them really.

that's one person. So I could look at that and say, wow, so the odds are one out of 8 billion that I can become a successful astrologer right now. And here's this person that started before me and has like 200,000 followers. I could choose to look at it like that. Or I could choose to say the feeling within myself and what I know to be true in my soul and what I know to be true as I practice with my friends, which is also creating that evidence and building in my own mastery.

If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. It's not about, the odds are one in 8 billion or anything like that. And now the funny thing is sometimes people will say to me, oh, I wish I had a skill like that that was marketable online. And it's like, who said that? It was more or less marketable online than anything else.

 You only think that because you see me doing it. So it's really about having this sovereignty and responsibility and how we are believing. Or accepting these beliefs and thoughts that we have that are just not necessarily true. So for all readers, if it's what you're meant to do, you will be provided for by spirit.

If it's what you're meant to do, you can make prosperity with it. Is everyone gonna be able to have a hundred thousand followers? Not necessarily, is everyone meant to be a multimillionaire? I mean, I don't think that's really that unfeasible. There really is enough resources to go around, but when we stop looking and be in this game of constant comparison, because a lot of people are looking for all the reasons why they can't do something, instead of recognizing what resources do you have available at your fingertips right now?

And if you feel that call in your soul, can you trust that and also trust where it's gonna lead you when you keep showing up, taking aligned action and learning the lessons along the way.

Ruby: So much gold in there. I'm just taking a little millisecond to soak that all up because you just went to a whole other planet just then and you just channeled that right through, and so many little permission slips in there. It's like, well call yourself out in a way. Why are you thinking that?

Where did that come from? Let's turn that around. And even if sometimes you're saying certain things and you. Physically believe that just yet. It's amazing that the more you say it, the more evidence shows up and that belief system begins to turn and turn until you don't even realize it. And then you are hanging out with people who used to hang out with a lot and you're like, whoa.

My whole narrative and dialogue has shifted so significantly. And you know, you are evidence of that, in that four years and just a huge shift around turning your life completely around to such a prosperous place. How do you, cuz you've referenced your chart, which I love. You live and breathe it. 

You teach it, you share it. It's such a huge part and a big essence in your business. and I'm gonna leave links to Ayesha's work for sure in the show notes, so you can go check it all out. How do you read for yourself? Does it ever feel clouded? You know, I was having a chat with my psychic the other day and he made this really short statement.

He says, I can never see my own future. I can never read for my own family. Do you feel that, in terms of reading your own chart, I mean, obviously not, but how do you separate the fears and the beliefs, which can sometimes, I guess when you come up and you read something, you go, does that mean doom and gloom?

How do you do that?

Ayesha: So I consider when I look at my chart, it's not that I'm giving myself a reading, it's that I'm in a conversation. So when I'm looking at my chart, it's a mirror of what is. So what that means is if I'm plucking my eyebrows, I'm gonna use a mirror to look at what's going on. I made a meme that said that, and it was like, life without astrology is like plucking my eyebrows without a mirror,

So I see it as this ongoing conversation where I'm, you know, I'm not giving myself a reading. If I was to give myself a reading, like a [00:20:00] real, you know, a 90 minute, my signature Soul Wealth reading, I believe that I could, if I clear my palette, Record and just speak out loud as if I'm giving it to someone else and just have that level of detachment and objectivity.

That being said, I love receiving readings from other astrologers, and I usually receive one on my birthday from a different other astrologer because it's fun to receive it, and , they're, they're just gonna have a different perspective.

 I've always learned a lot from receiving readings, , before I was even giving them, you know, so I, I definitely like having another person and that's kind of like my yearly tradition for my solar return is . Getting a birthday reading, , from someone else.

In terms of doom and gloom, that's once again a belief system choice. Um, my underlying belief is, We chose every single thing in our chart.

So instead of think, oh, why did I get this one? Oh, Mars is in detriment and Taurus on my chart. Why did I get that? It's not a random roll of the dice. . It's more like, why did my higher self choose this? Interesting. It's like, what mastery was I meant to gain by this challenging?

If you look at my chart, it's covered in challenging red lines all over the place. Um, we talk about this a lot in my astrology for business course, cosmic success codes, cuz I use myself as an example a lot and I'm just like, yep, we got red lines all over the place. And I've also seen it with so many clients.

Some, some of the most, you know, amazing successful people have these challenges in their charge, just like in our lives. Right? Which by the way, just to, just to speak on something we are often spending energy in the thing we don't wanna invest in, really. So what I mean by that is we're looking for the reasons why we can't do something.

So person A will say, oh, I can't have success because I don't have this big rags to richest story and I didn't have enough trauma and I didn't, and suffer and struggle enough. And then person B is like, wow, that person grew up with their family believing in them and supporting them. And you know, I'm so messed up because I didn't have that.

 We don't need to earn our success by struggling or suffering. We get to just share our value and give our medicine in this world, and we get to receive for that. We don't need to earn it , with suffering and struggling. 

However, when we see challenging things in our life, when we see challenging things on our chart, if we choose to have the belief system underneath it of how did I want myself to evolvethrough having this, even through some of the hardest things. And it can get to be a little bit of a slippery slope cuz sometimes in the new age type lingo it can sound very spy to be like, oh, you attracted all this bad stuff that happened to you. And it's like, it's not quite that for me. I don't believe I attracted, you know, things I experienced like abuse, et cetera, et cetera.

However, I do believe that my soul chose to incarnate in this life path. And so without, blaming myself and without validating the actions of another person, I do have this zoomed out kind of visionary perspective on, hmm, how badass was I meant to become? And what does that say about my future? 

With these challenges and harsh aspects and things that aren't easy on the chart, it's like how badass was I meant to become and what is that telling me about the power that I'm actually meant to hold in this incarnation?

So when it comes to doom and gloom and things that look challenging, you know, I had, like I said, with the transits in 2020 that said straight up, you're not gonna, there's gonna be interruptions and disruption with my career, I could have said, oh no, I'm just being in total victim mode. Or I could say, oh, okay, great time to, I've been kind of waiting for a little fire under my ass to make my website for my astrology readings.

So now at least this income stream can be bigger. And we'll just see what happens and threw it out there. And you know, the rest is history. So when we see the transits, not as happening to us, but happening for us, even when they're challenging, challenges are how we grow. So it's kind of like indicating like, oh, well something really important is probably right around the corner if you're being called to grow through this challenge right now.

Ruby: That’s what I love so much about . Astrology. I've . Personally been going deeper with it. This year I found myself really wanting to build a stronger relationship with it, not just in terms of kind of just seeing it at face level, but deciding what it gets to look like for me, based on what it's saying and understanding like the houses.I've loved it. 

'm gonna say something, I don't know if you agree. There was a time where I didn't know how to manage this energy. Exactly what you just spoke about. When something comes to you and it feels heavy, or it feels scary, or it feels like, oh, really doom and gloom. I used to subscribe to the app, the pattern.

I don't know if you do or if you look at it, but sometimes the languaging in that app is so fucking harsh. And I used to open it every morning and have a look and cuz you can like share your profile with others and you can see what your girlfriends are doing in their day. And I used to have, one of my friends messaged me and she's like, oh my God, you're gonna have a day.

And I was like, and I'd open the app and it was, you know, something really, I guess like a past life thing came to me that day and I didn't really know how to handle that. And eventually I just thought, you know what, astrology's really not safe. Like, I [00:25:00] kind of interpreted that way where it kind of made me feel the whole day, by the way, nothing happened that day in terms of it just like, the severity of how it read.

But it really ruined the energy of my day because I let it, I interpreted it that way and I brought it on that way. But the more that I've learnt and lent into the, my relationship with astrology, It's so different now because it is, as you were saying, a choice that you get to make. So how would you interpret the difference between free will and what's written in the stars?

Ayesha: That's so funny. That's something that I talk about all the time is what's fate and what's free will. Right? And it really, it's both every, everything is always both, all moments. We always have a choice of how, how we respond to what's happening. And in terms of apps like that, I have never used an app like that because I've just, you know, by the time those apps even started coming around, I was probably 15 years deep , in my own study, right?

So it's not really, it's a little bit redundant. People are always like, oh, you're an astrologer if I meet them in person. Have you heard of CoStar? It's like, why would I need, why would I need that? I don't know, so I have heard things I'm not gonna say about any specific apps, but I have heard that some of these apps are hiring writers, not necessarily astrologers.

Think of the astrologer that would take the job to be a writer for an app. Are they gonna be a high level astrologer? Probably not. I'm guessing like, Call me out if I'm wrong. but I'm guessing these are not the astrologers that we would really want advising us personally if they're, if that is their job.

You don't know who they. You don't know who it is that is interpreting the stars for you.

So I can look at the exact same transits that they're looking at, and I could say, Ooh, an opportunity for you to process past life. Karma is gonna come up today, and that's gonna be like sweeping this broom of clearing and purging that's actually gonna open you up to more of this. So my perception on it is not, it's not like the weather where, oh, it's gonna rain today.

Like it's not, it's not like that. The vibration of, fear is not helpful. Right? Keeping people on alert, keeping them on their toes, looking for something wrong to happen. We have enough of that in our world. We have more than enough of that in our world with mainstream media and you know, anything that we look at anywhere, right?

So for me, the whole point of working with astrology is how is this empowering me? How, what's an opportunity for me here? Right? So looking for the opportunity that's available. There are times when I know that I might have lower energy or might be, you know, even right now, I'm going through some fourth house transits right now.

At the time that we're recording this, it's Scorpio season. We have like, uh, sun, mercury, Venus and Scorpio. It's a time of for me, where is in my chart and other people who might be Leo rising like myself. That would be our fourth house. And the fourth house is home family. The womb, and it also goes over my Pluto, which, you know, that placement Pluto in the fourth house is something that indicates, childhood trauma or, death and rebirth in the childhood.

Um, kind of dark energy. So it is, uh, historically, you know, it can be a time where I'm working through my own triggers and it's all about what we make that mean. I think times where I'm working through my own triggers are incredibly powerful. And when I see that I'm having transits through water houses, which is the fourth house.

The eighth house, the 12th house, which by the way, I have a free guide with all of my breakdowns on all the houses. So someone's like, oh, my fourth house is in Scorpio. Um, my Scorpio house is the first house. You can use my guide as kind of like this cross reference, um, for yourself, and it's free to download.

So when I see that I'm having certain transits, rather than being like, oh, I'm gonna be tired and I'm gonna be like, upset and triggered, rather than forecasting that for myself, it's more like, I'm gonna have so much grace for myself. I'm not gonna over commit during this time, but I'm also not throwing my goals out the window.

You know, I'm also not saying that I'm not capable. And what actually happens during these more sensitive transits of the waterhouses, the fourth, eighth, and 12th house is usually a lot of incredible channeled content. Because when we don't force, when I understand that there's certain times, , certain opportunities with transits where it's like, Ooh, I'm super magnetic right now.

So I wasn't really planning on launching something, but you know what? I might throw up a flash sale or I might do a spontaneous paid master class and like, let's, let's use this energy. Let's go. This is not a time that I would do that. But it's also not a time that I'm living in avoidance. It's a time where I'm like, oh, I might want more rest.

I might be going through waves of emotions, and I'm gonna give myself the spaciousness to be with that, because that's actually really beautiful. So rather than seeing it, oh, this isn't good for my goals or launching, it's like it really, it's all about the meeting that you give it. I think that doing the work of what life is presenting to us is the most important thing.

We can't override that because our ego wants to . Be doing something else. so what happens for me during this transit that I'm in right now is, a lot less commitments, a lot less calls on my calendar, and then I create from my pulse of wanting to create. So maybe some people who follow me on Instagram would notice.

I have posted a lot less the past few weeks on Instagram. I'm not gonna force myself, I'm not gonna push myself. And what comes through is coming from a very deep place within myself because these are very deep transits that are happening for me, and I think that's good and beautiful.[00:30:00] 

Ruby: I feel like you have one of those Instagram accounts that it doesn't matter how often you post, because every single post is so deep that you could literally go and you should go and have a look. You guys, it's like every post is like 10 swipes, a mini blog post. You can just learn so, so, so much from your account that there's so much there that can just keep us happy.

And then when it posts you do post, it's like bonus. It's like, okay, great. There's a new one. But I, I honestly feel you've built up that energy around it, whether it be intentional or unintentional, where there's so much that you can soak up. And, you know, one thing that I really have to say is, you've totally inspired me to learn more about my chart.

You know, how speaking about that earlier since working together. But what has actually inspired me about that is you have such an awareness and I find that comes because you know what's transiting or what's happening in your chart, like all those sorts of things. Like so much so you might start a Voxer and be like, okay babe, um, I'm a little tender today because it's just moving through this house and you just almost like start your messages like that spot, I need to get this out.

And I love that because it gives you a lot of permission to be open and to be graceful and to be tender and to receive. But it also helps me in terms of, alright, what is it that I would like to hear in that energy, you know, and that kind of thing. So I really, really love that. Definitely gonna download your free astrology guide question What happens?

And you've got my chart, but what happens when you look at your chart and you have no signs? Cuz I've got a big chunk of my chart with no planets and no signs in it. What does that exactly mean?

Ayesha: I believe that it's impossible to have a major planet in every single house.

 If I have my, my facts correct, everyone, and what I mean by major planet is there's also tens of thousands of asteroids. So if we add a bunch of asteroids, you might have something in every house. But based on the planets, the luminaries that we work within our solar system, everyone has some empty houses.

They don't get evenly distributed all, all over. So everyone has empty houses. And the way that I look at empty houses is, um, so for those who don't know, houses are, if you're looking at your chart, and it's the, the circle chart, the pizza crust on the outside where it has the symbols, those are the zodiac signs.

And then, body of the pizza where the ch cheese and toppings is, that is the house. So the bigger part of the triangle or the pie or whatever, and those are indicating areas of life. So when we have a planet or a point or an asteroid in a sign in a house, it's that planet has an archetype. So let's say Mars is an archetype of the warrior, the personality of our Mars is indicated by the sign that it's in.

So for Ruby, she has Mars in Aquarius. So her warrior is this very intellectual new earth, uh, rebellious kind of warrior. And oh, by the way, our Mars indicates what kinda man we're attracted to. So I know that Michael is an Aquarius…

Ruby: That is crazy oh my God, this is giving me goosebumps. Because Michael had a reading once, a kachic records reading, and they said in his past life he was a Chinese warrior.

Ayesha: Oh yeah, I could see that. I could see that. So that's a great placement for love when your Mars is in the same, uh, sun sign or any other placement of your partner, um, especially if they're a male. And then, so that's the personality of Ruby's inner warrior. It's this aquarium energy. So it's this new earth energy.

It's very, um, you know, visionary, futuristic, like you're fighting for a cause. The warrior implies fighting. So it's what we fight for, it's how we fight for what we want. It's how we go after what we want. And then the house is the area of life where that warrior with that personality is expressing itself.

So for you, it's in your first house, which is all about how you take up space and share yourself in this world and the way that you look and the energy that you emanate. And it's very like, you have very like influencer energy in various places in your chart. Houses that are empty don't mean something bad.

If anything, they can indicate a neutrality in that area of life where maybe there are less carmic lessons for you in that area of life. So for example, you have the seventh house on your chart for Ruby's chart empty. The seventh house is the house of marriage and one-on-one client work. Well, I know you're always constantly signing these beautiful, amazing one-on-one clients out of nowhere who are like, Ruby, I need to work with you.

And you have a lovely, wonderful partnership that you even have a business partnership together. And the seventh house is also business partnership. So it's uh, contractual agreements between two people, including marriage, including business partnership, collaborations and um, clients from where I'm sitting.

You have all those things in an abundance and you have no planets there. So perhaps there's a neutrality there where there's less hard lessons for you to learn. And maybe you've done a lot of that work in past lives and the focus in terms of what. Where your lessons lie and where your evolutions lie is actually in the houses where you do have [00:35:00] planets.

So some people will see the house of marriage be empty, and it's like, does that mean I'm not gonna get married? It's like, no girl. You might actually just click in with your person without too much drama because it's just not an area of focus and growth in your life, not an area. It's not, not an area of focus in terms of you don't get to focus on it and enjoy it.

Cause obviously you're a living testament that you do get to have that, but it's not necessarily the place of your carmic lessons and this big growth and this these big challenges. So I, for example, have my third house empty on my chart. The third house is the house of, uh, it's a house of content creation and media and communication.

So, as we know, I love my platforms. I have, you know, um, over 19,000 followers, completely organically. Did a podcast that somehow jumped to the top 10 in number eight in Norway in like the first four days. That was really awesome. So it's not like we can't enjoy the fruits of an empty house in our chart, it's just that maybe I just don't have as many blocks or as many things to really work through there.

For whatever reason, there's a neutrality, so neutral is good. That being said, there are ways to read the energies of those houses. Now we're getting into a little bit of advance on, I'm not gonna go too much further in, in this direction, but something people can play with if it's landing, if it, it's clicking and sounds fun.

If it sounds like discouraging and hard, just don't even worry about it. But if you have an empty house on your chart, you can look at the cusp, which is the first line of that house. You can look at the sign that it's in and that sign has a ruling planet so you can learn. Let's use you as an example again.

Ruby has her seventh house cusp. So this empty house we're talking about in Leo, Leo is ruled by the sun. So we can look at Ruby's sun placement to actually gain more information about her house. So we can still learn about that area of our life without the direct placement being there. And then another thing that happens is all the time the planets, the moon luminaries and asteroids are constantly activating our houses.

So our empty houses still get activated through transits constantly all the time.

Ruby: Wow, that is firstly, I'll never be able to unsee the pizza. Now that I see it, I see it. It is so fascinating and oh my gosh, like I am right now. Just everything you're saying about, being like the leader of the new world and in a sense of just like doing it the aquarium way, that makes so much sense about why it's so hard to fit in any kind of a box. You know, at school I didn't fit in the box at work, I didn't fit in the box.

In this world of entrepreneurship and being amongst peers, I just don't quite fit. You know? I'm like, why? You know what's going on here? And every single group that I've been in, it's like you do it really differently or you are kind of the person who you know, kind of goes off and does something random.

I'm like, yep, that's me. That is me. A hundred percent. And sometimes it has felt like a battle or it has felt like a fight because there's not a lot of people who really are there or that support network isn't there. It kind of feels like new lands and a new world. And I think now that I'm in my thirties, I kind of just feel like, okay.

I get it now, it's okay. And if, if, if I'm called to this other place, I feel strength in that. And I know that I have this like internal power to move over there if I need to and want to and desire to without needing validation from elsewhere. So, and I love that you also said in the seventh, it just might just mean there's neutrality and there's just no drama.

Like that's how it feels. I've had two significant relationships in my life and whilst one of them has ended, that kind of ended without any major drama. Just kind of faded into the background. And my relationship with Michael, there's just no drama. You know, actually there's psychic reading that I recently had

he's like, oh my gosh, you've got such a peaceful marriage. It's like no drama in there. And same goes with my clients. When I work with them one to one, I'll have some of my other friends who, or clients who might share crazy stories or whatever's going on that's just like so wild and it's very, very rare that I experience that with my private clients or even coaches that I work with.

Maybe only like one or two, but still it's quite like drama free and easeful. So thank you for that confirmation. I love that. I've really received that in full. And mind you, I literally sent Ayesha my chart like five minutes before we started and she's just like, Nope, no time to prepare. She's just reading it like a language, which I just obviously with like 20 years experience, it comes so naturally.

But I have to ask the golden question, and I know this could be an entire masterclass and it is for you, but if we were to look at it from an entrepreneurial perspective, what are some of the key areas that you would say, go ahead, download the guide, study this part. What would be the top elements that you would look for?

Ayesha: Something that I have noticed that I wanna acknowledge is that in the online space, the space of like content and the space of like, you know, quick, short form [00:40:00] content and things that we see, there is a lot of desire for people to know the one thing, you know, what's that one thing or what's that key, or what's, what's the business point in the chart.

Now let me ask you what is business?, It's, showing up, it's communication, it's relationships, it's money, it's our own confidence. It's our, um, you know, way that we're showing up. It's the way that we see it's sales and marketing, it's negotiations. It's, um, stepping up to the challenges. It's using our intuition.

So to me, the whole thing is, is everything. And I know, uh, people, when I do q and a's and stuff on my Instagram, I get that this question almost every time. And someone said in the very last one, you know, if you had to choose one and I just responded, I wouldn't because it's just not, it's just not the way it works.

Like, my mouth is a big part of my job, but I can't do that without my, my arms and my ears. And, you know, it's all, it's all part of it. However, I will definitely, you know, we gotta start with something, right? We gotta have something to explore and something to, to go look at just acknowledging that, that mindset of, uh, what's that one thing is not always the mindset that's gonna serve.

Our true, like highest success. Um, when we recognize that it's very holistic, you're not missing anything, you already are all of it. But some things that are really fun to play with in the chart, one that is really powerful and is a great place to start is our rising sign. So our ascendant hope for Ruby, that's the Aquarius rising.

And our rising sign is what we are naturally emanating. So we're, it's representing our appearance, it's representing our body, it's representing the way we carry ourselves, and it's also this first impression that we give to other people before we've even said anything or before they've gotten to know us.

So in business, our rising sign can have a lot of the codes of our branding and of our positioning in the market because and this is so help, what's so helpful about astrology is. Look at online business and look at what everyone else is doing and the sea of literally infinite, overwhelming amounts of information and strategies.

And they're all right. You know, , every strategy is is valid and almost any strategy will work if it's aligned for you. But when we look at branding specifically, and then we align it with our rising sign, it cuts out so many options. It just makes it so much easier for us. So our rising sign is almost like, I see it as like our, our Batman signal.

It's like how we're signaling to our solar line clients, So that's a really fun one because it's like Al also, there's an underlying premise there that the people that are meant to work with you just want you, not you pretending to be someone else, not you copying someone else's branding or thinking. It has to be this polished, perfect, nudes and, you know, the pinks and the, this font that everyone's using and jumping on the trends, which is really appropriate for Ruby's chart because you're here to be the trend setter.

You're not here to follow any trends because Aquarius is a very, rebellious sign. So it's not here to conform with what other people are doing. Um, you know, someone with a Virgo rising, it might be a lot more aligned for them to have a very clean and very, polished branding where they have templates and the whole thing is like this perfect, cohesive thing with lots of cleanliness and not a lot of layers maybe, and maybe

using three colors, for example, looks really polished, looks really refined. But for you, Ruby, you are of the sign of rebellion and non-conforming. So you're here to not blend in with what other people are doing. You're here to not be the picture perfect little polish. So you know, you're even here to rebel against even the patterned grid.

You know the premeditated grid where the pictures work together, they connect together like.

Ruby: I have tried to do that. that I cannot, I can't do it. I'm like, what's wrong? Why can't I see it? That makes so sense. 

Ayesha: Yeah, because it's not that it's messy, it's just that it's not giving a fuck basically.

So you know how there's people out there that are making these. Huge viral posts on just like the screenshot of their notes app on their phone. That's very aquarium. It's like, I don't give a fuck. I'm not here to impress you. I'm just here to say my thing, right? I'm just here to shoot my, shoot my shot, basically.

the cool thing with Aquarius Energy is even the Aquarius Risings don't look like each other . So there's, it's that unpredictable, it's that different. So it's really like, it's just about being in the moment, sharing your electricity, the most important thing is actually not what you need to try to be.

It's to give yourself permission to be your full weird self and to really just do what you want and break the rules that you've, that people say, as an Aquarius rising and that's what is gonna be so refreshing to your soulmate clients are gonna see that and just be like, Ugh, I love that. You're not like on this, this treadmill, or, I love that you're not on this, this hamster wheel of content creation where it all looks the same.

The ways that you stand out, the ways that you're weird, your freak flag, that's very aquarium. so all the ways that you let. people in on that is actually gonna be more appealing to your soulmate people than the most perfect branded, flawless, um, all cohesive, calm. It's not, it's not so much calm energy.

That is your branding code, your branding code in the case of Aquarius Rising, it's more like activating. It's like, let's go new world. What's the vision? What's next? Fut? It's very futuristic. So it's like, what's the vision, what's next? And so your vision, your movement, your [00:45:00] mission, and I, I think those words are important for all of us because it brings meaning behind what we're doing.

But when you're in Aquarius Rising, it's like you want that to be shared. you want that to be seen. Um, and even your own changes. Aquarius is a sign of disruption and change. So even, you know, you rebranded your podcast, like that's a very normal thing. And you might, you might even do it again at some point because it's kind of giving people permission to evolve and, and revolutionize what they're doing through you doing that?

Ruby: I literally have changed the podcast name three times in four years. I have had five businesses in four years, but I haven't shut down a business to start a new one. It's just been the evolution of it, so ,it's just gone. I'm rebranding. I'm rebranding, I'm rebranding, and it, every time I do it it doesn't feeldifficult. It feels like that's natural. I'm meant to do that. I have a different skin on, so it's amazing. what does it mean for Leo Risings? I know, you are Leo Rising, so how, how would you do that?

Ayesha: So, my Leo Rising has been such an interesting one for me to work with cuz it wasn't really super expressed in my life until my, like late twenties. I'm actually an Aquarius son in Venus, so we have a lot of, we have some conjunctions going on between our two charts.

So my personality is more so aquarium. It's more like I don't care and I don't care if anyone likes me and I'm just doing my thing over here. But my rising sign with Leo is kind of like this influencer energy. And I had to actually come to a place of acceptance with that and understand that, you know, when I first started my business, I was really hiding behind a lot of astrology.

I was like, here's how much I know. Here's what I know, here's what I know. I wasn't sharing photos of myself because I thought I looked too unprofessional, cause I'm covered in tattoos and I was just so new to this world and I was so used to being an outcast. And I had never been in a professional standing.

I was a bartender. I was the door girl at a party. Like I was doing all kinds of random stuff. So being like, oh, I'm giving these professional readings. I felt like I needed to look professional and I felt like there was a certain definition of what that was. So I wasn't very comfortable showing myself.

I didn't want people to see all my tattoos and piercings, and I didn't even go by my first name when I first started. I was so, hidden and like obscuring myself and thinking, let me just show people how much I know. And then as I slowly started to just, you know, we get to take our time, our nervous systems get to adjust to being seen.

It's a it's a big deal to be seen and be vulnerable online. So I had my steps, but along the way I always had my radar on the fact that I'm a Leo rising. I'm here to show my face. I'm here to show people my coffee. I'm here to show people my life. It's almost like I see my, my platform, honestly, as a reality TV show.

Not that's never scripted, but it is very much recognizing people are online scrolling because they want content they want, they want to see something real and something cool. So letting them in more on my life, even though my other placements are very, like, no one cares about that. Like, who cares about your coffee?

Who cares about your trip? Who cares about this? But the Leo rising part. So that's why that really helps me to understand myself because if we don't have planets in our rising sign, we won't necessarily resonate with it on a personality level. So for you, Ruby, you have your Mars and Aquarius as well.

You have your son Uranus and Mercury in Sagittarius, but it's in the 11th house and that's the house of Aquarius. So you have a lot of aquarium energy For me, I don't have a lot of Leo energy. I just have a Leo rising. I'm just in this, this Leo vessel.

Energy that's animating that vessel is not very Leo. I just don't have very strong LEO qualities. Naturally. I don't have anything in the house of Leo, so it was an interesting one to play with and recognizing. Mm. So what I'm seeing from this map, when I take my feelings and my ego out of it, what I'm seeing from this map is I'm here to share.

Things that are aquarium, new world, astrology, innovation, new paradigm. And the way the vehicle that that's meant to express in this world is through me actually being more of kind of an influencer energy and being like, Hey everyone, I'm Ayesha. Here's welcome to my show. Welcome to Sacred CEO Podcast, da da da, and like, be that spokesperson and like the face of those deeper, things.

And that's been very empowering for me. And the more that I do that, the more my business blows up. I remember the first times that I shared that I dropped out of high school. I was never planning on sharing that it has nothing to do. my aquarius sun is like, that has nothing to do with astrology. what is that?

And then I, then another layer came and I shared that I was a stripper. And that was totally not necessary and parts of me thought it wasn't relevant. But for the Leo Rising, it is relevant because it's letting people get to know me. And my journey is part of how my teaching is actually meant to express.

And I know that because our rising sign is the vehicle for the medicine that we have. Um, so that was me needing to just get outta my own way and be like, yo, I see it. I see it on the map, right? Like what can I, what? I can't argue with that.

Ruby: Wow. And I see that so much for you. I know you and I have been talking about your podcast, which. As of this recording just, just, just launched and as we heard earlier, is just doing incredibly well all around the world. But, oh my God, for the longest time, I have just felt we need to get your voice out there on your podcast because you've been on some amazing podcasts already as a guest.

But I really just feel already there's an elevation of your brand and you know, you can talk about all the random stuff like I do on my podcast and [00:50:00] they love it. So, hello Leo, rising Heaven. You'll just have the best time. It's gonna be so playful on there.

Ayesha: Yeah, I'm enjoying it so much. And just, you know, life gives us these confirmations when it's like, oh, there's a part of me that wanted to just, uh, you know, be in the background and just be, be serving, you know, people in the background and letting, letting them make the difference.

But when we really look at, if we see the chart as this is an instruction manual for the biggest impact that you can make and the most alignment that you can have, I had to just get outta my own way and work on my own issues with being seen and work on my own issues with, you know, being vulnerable and sharing my story and realizing that what if my story is actually the bigger impact, even more than what I know in my modalities.

And sometimes we wanna hide behind our modalities as well.

Ruby: I mean, even as you're saying that what's coming up for me is I had to work a lot on not needing to conform and being okay to be different. And it's okay if my grid looks messy and I'm using 10 different fonts and all these different, my website doesn't suit my current branding, and I actually don't give a fuck.

It's just like, okay, when that updates, it'll update, you know? And it's still gonna be like the best. It's still, it's not gonna take me away from my message. It's not gonna mean I'm earning less. It's not gonna mean that people are gonna disrespect me more. It's okay. So, you know, it's, it's really been a big journey and a big lesson to embrace the messiness, but also make millions in the mess.

Ayesha: Exactly. And I feel like the thing with that is it's not just, okay, it's actually showing your clients like myself and other people that are in your world, that you get to make millions and you get to self validate on

I am good enough. This is good enough. This is perfect. I'm not gonna wait until this is all, uh, tidied up or something like that. And that's actually a very new paradigm thing to share because so many people, especially women, are holding back on doing what they wanna do because they think they need to wait for the website, they need to wait for the logo, they need to wait for the professional photo shoot.

Meanwhile, other people are zooming ahead to their seven figures with selfies on an iPhone 10 and a Squarespace website that they made five years ago, and they're still making sales. So you're, you're, it's not just, okay, you're actually being an example for your clients where you're like, yeah, here I am living my best life about to, you know, go travel the world with my entire family and stay in luxurious locations.

Like, you know, you're living life and, uh, I think. There is a deeper teaching that you may not even be aware of with you being less living in alignment with that, you know, of the freedom and the liberation. The, yeah, I'm still doing this. I'm here, I'm consistent. I have my, my impact and my, brand and my message still going out there, but I'm not waiting for it to be all like picture perfect.

Because that's the conforming, right? And that's also, there's some deep programming with that, especially for people socialized as women or socialized feminine. Aquarius is everything new paradigm. So it feels really aligned, like on a deeper level. You know, it's kind of like, you know, when we subconsciously see what we see impacts our subconscious.

So if we're constantly looking at perfect picture, perfect feeds all the time, that's telling us in our subconscious, successful equals picture, perfect feed. So you're throwing in a pattern interrupt in there, which is very Aquarius, the pattern interrupt, um, something different, something that's, Ooh, what's this?

And that's, yeah, it's very permission giving, I feel like. And that's part of like the aquarium new paradigm revolution rebellion from the current way. And uh, yeah, I feel like there's a deeper, deeper impact that actually comes from you just, doing what you're doing, living your , living your your life.

Ruby:  I'm just laughing over here because when we were traveling the first time around, Michael was doing his personal family vlogs and all of a sudden we, it'd just be really beautiful scenery and then he would just throw a meme in there, or random quacking duck emoji or something. I'm like, what is that? And he's like, that's a pattern interrupt.

And that's his thing now. He talks about that all the time. He's like, you should on stories, just like do a pattern interrupt. it's meant to be. It's meant to 

Ayesha: That's your aquarium expander. I love that. Because I can already see, I don't know Michael's chart. All I know is he's an Aquarius. Cause I'm an Aquarius, so I notice when, oh, Michael's an Aquarius too. But you know when your rising sign is the same as some placements of your partner, that's a really positive thing. That's a, that's a, that's a good combo. That's a hot combo right there. . 

Ruby: There's definitely a lot of random things that we laugh about that I'm sure no one else would. It's just like a little moments.

Oh my God. Ayesha I really feel like. I have to keep going. I wanna keep going with this. So, you know, when, when the time comes, I'm gonna do my birthday reading with you, which you offer, and so many amazing, you know, um, different offerings as well. You've got free, you've got paid. Where are some ways that we can learn more about this and what would you recommend actually to, to kind of start with?

Ayesha: So some places that are a fun place to start is the path of becoming North and South Node's Masterclass, which is a masterclass on your north node of destiny and your south node of past life Karma. This [00:55:00] topic alone, it's funny, my, my first paid group offers were like the most abstract, obscure topics at all.

I wasn't like your sun side. I was like your north node because it's been so life changing for me to understand my north node. The north node is the point of future destiny and it's very people don't talk about it in this way, but it's very connected with manifestation because when we're on an alignment with our destiny, we are quantum leaping because that's what where Spirit wants us to be at. So when we are actively understanding and aligning to and attuning to our north node, we're manifesting and miracles are just a normal thing. People look at my life and they're like, how have you done so much? How has all this happened? 

To me I'm just like, it's just my north node. I'm just following my north node. And as we do that spirit is like, okay, she ready for her destiny. So here's all the things that you're gonna need. And then the south node is our past life karma, which is the exact opposite of our north node. And that's gonna indicate why we're not doing what's best for us and why we're staying in our comfort zone and why we keep having certain patterns.

So I feel like that one has a really big impact. And that's a single master class that you can buy. And I teach you how to find it on your chart, and I break down the science and houses and, uh, teach you, you know, how I suggest you work with that and how to work that in an ongoing way. Another really powerful topic is Chiron, which is the wounded healer archetype.

And so I have a specific masterclass on that. It is geared towards entrepreneurs, but it will also help everyone. But obviously there's entrepreneurs in your audience because not only is Chiron gonna tell us. The origin and the, the blueprint of our deepest wounding, which is so empowering, validating, liberating, because we've had this all our lives.

And when I read that part of people's chart, when we get to that part of the reading, they're feeling so seen. They're like, oh my God. They're like, and it can be, can be a little triggering, but it's more than that. It's so validating to be like, wow, there's a reason why I felt this way about this one Not only is it this wound that can indicate, you know, why we're not doing the things we wanna do, why we're not getting out there, why we're not following our dreams, why we're not investing in ourselves or making these choices.

So that's, that already is life changing, but also it's our greatest healing gift to offer others. So when we bring our Chiron into the work that we do, especially if we do client work, it just

brings it to a whole other level. It just brings it to a whole next level because all of the journey that we've been on with our Chiron wound is actually qualifying us.

We have an expertise in our Chiron wound, even if it doesn't feel like it, because we might still feel like we're really struggling with it. But, so for example, if we have time, Ruby, for me to just share a little bit about your Chiron as an example. So Ruby has Chiron in Gemini. It's not to expose your deepest wound here on your podcast or anything but

Chiron in Gemini is a wound around communication. It's so interesting cuz you have a podcast and the thing is, I see this actually a lot with people who are public speakers. people who English is their second language, but their English is like better than mine.

It's so perfect. You would never think they have their very academic. Everything they say is so correct. And that's actually because there's been a lot of pressure on them because they can actually have a wound around communicating where they, they're afraid to sound stupid. They can be afraid to ask questions.

Um, or they were, before they did healing on that, they can be afraid to say the wrong thing. They can feel very devastated if they have said the wrong thing. And there's, there's this deep wounding around expression and the healing gift beneath that, once you go on that journey is helping other people realize their story is important and their voice is important.

Oh, and you just, and you did a storytelling course. I'm just realizing

Ruby: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And literally when I started the business, one of my hashtags that I'd say all the time was be unapologetically you and speak your truth. .And that was because I needed to be reminded of that, you know, for so long my voice was held back. So this is 1000% resonating.

Ayesha: And you know, people might not always be able to guess our Chiron wounds when we've been on the healing journey because that's an area of such huge transformation for us. So I would never guess, oh, this person has a wound with communication because here you are hosting this epic podcast, you know, always just sharing your, your smile and your joy and it's.

It's interesting cuz your chiron's even in the, the fifth house, which is the house of fun and it's the house of child. So having a child can really help you heal that you may have had to grow up too fast and not been able to have a super playful childhood for some reason. Um, there can be wounds around like creativity and having fun.

And now that's these. Like, that's why I hired Ruby was to have more fun in my business. So clearly you've been on the path of healing that Chiron, and then because of what you have been through, you are more qualified than other people to help people with that. So for example, my Chiron is around, uh, it's cancer, which is the house of the, the sign of home and family.

So I have some abandonment stuff with my family going on, and then it's in the 11th house, which is groups and communities. So people would probably see me with my audience and, you know, um, 80 people in my astrology program and the podcast and stuff like that. And they would probably not guess that this person has this deep wound when it comes to groups and communities.

But I do. But I've been on my journey of transformation and so now what I help people with is feeling safe to go after their biggest aspirations, even if they are [01:00:00] rejected by others and even if they are not accepted by their families, for example, which was so connected with my journey. And when I have clients who have Chiron in Gemini, you know, what I really want them to understand is when a client is struggling with expressing themselves, expressing their story, trusting their channel, that's another big one too. Trusting your channel. Like they might, when they're in the wounding, they might be like, I need to have it all planned out cause I, what if I forget or whatever.

And they, that pressure actually makes them forget and that pressure actually makes them choke. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So when someone comes to you or to us, let's say with that wound and that problem is a really big block for them. You would be able to help them more because I could help them with my experience, my toolbox, my understanding of astrology.

But I was always that kid in class in like sixth grade being like, what about this? And like challenging the teacher publicly and like trying to be a smart ass and like, you know what I mean? Like I'm, that's never been my problem . So when it is like when we understand our Chiron gift and we start to bring it into our offerings, it's just so beautiful.

It's just so beautiful. It's almost giving meaning to, not that we need, it has meaning no matter what, but it, it is beautiful when I look at these wounds and be like, wow, because I went through that, I'm able to help other people and that's one of the best feelings ever and it's one of the deepest impacts that we can make.

So, wow, that was a huge tangent, but I have a masterclass on that topic and that's a cool place to start as well. And if you wanna go on like a deeper journey with me, I have an entire program called Cosmic Success Codes, which is astrology for business. So learning how to be your own astrology. We taught so many modules in there, every planet, money codes.

Marketing, lots of business strategy. We talk about sinistery compatibility, hiring our team members, creating our offers, messaging, copywriting. And it actually has those two master classes I mentioned are a bonus of that course. So if you're like, I'm all in, I wanna do it all, that would be a great place to go as well.

Ruby: That's the one. That's the one. Oh my God. Ayesha you are literally a translator of purpose work in this world. 

And I'm so grateful to have had your intellect, your channel, your voice, your truth on here. I'm just gonna go back and listen to this one so many times and I just wanna say I am truly grateful. So, , make sure everybody, go ahead.

Follow Ayesha. You will not regret it one bit. Even if you're brand new to astrology, you will learn really quickly. you'll learn really quickly. But if you're someone who just loves it, uses it as a tool, you will deepen your relationship with it. And I, what I love the most is that you link it so deeply into entrepreneurship, money, business building.

So it's so practical as well. You can place it straight into your business, straight into your brand. And this is literally what this audience is all about. So I'm so grateful. Thank you so much my love and sending you all the love